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Just blocking and engaging in wrestling are totally different PRINCESS DONNA did not stop the tag KARA did that. IZAMAR did not see it as cheating if KARA has hold of your teammate you need arms ten foot long jh/uk
Princess Donna. If you accept that blocking opponents off the mat from making a tag to be within the rules, then I suppose that you have to also accept that there shouldn't be any rules against opponents from engaging one another off the mat either, which is essentially what they are doing. (Don't know exactly what the rules are in this regard) Disregarding any pretense of fairness or competition whatsoever, it would be possible to create a much better show for the enjoyment of everyone by allowing both sets of participants to wrestle simultaneously both on and off the mat. That would create quite a bit of excitement. Gee, I think I saw some folding chairs in the audience that might make good props for the show in true WWF fashion. (sorry about the sarcasm). My point is that US seems to be suffering from a bit of an identity crisis. It doesn't know yet whether it wants to be a legitimate competative wrestling site, or just another porn site that uses supposed competition as the backdrop for those in the audience who prefer to see nothing more than female domination and humiliation in any form. Right now we have a little bit of both. I'd like to see the legitimate competative wrestling win out, but its clear that there is a large audience that prefers the alternative. Ultimately its a simple business decision for US to determine what its audience prefers. Best of luck.
Just because no one ever thought of blocking their opponents tags doesn't mean it is against the rules. It just means I'm the first person who thought of it. xo Donna
The comment about Isis and Matt not being here reminded me of NFL replacement refs lol, The new refs are still learning and it will take time but it seems very much a group effort. The wrestlers seem to be enjoying the round so that is more important then it being 100% called correctly.
My apologies to rubberfansticgirl for inadvertantly insulting her with my flippant "WTF" comment. I was responding to the fact that your comment was posted 8 consecutive times on the page and not to the content of your comments. I should have directed it more specifically to the attention of the webmaster. Sorry for the confusion.
Right on , right on R1yam . I defiantly love U/S it's the best Damm , great , Unscripted Female Wrestling Site on the Web, defiantly no desputes hand down , I now it's been some mistakes , don't get me wrong you learn as you go. But the pros out way the cons I'm my opinion , let the other sites try and beat this one , sorry ya can't.
One mesage that RUBBERFANTASTIC GIRLS comments show is that she loves the site and the wrestling and the wrestlers isnt that what its all about jh/uk.
Let me explain to the two posters who posted a rude response to what I was saying. What I was saying was that if you take time to read Bryns posts, above mine I was giving her thanks, to come on the comments section to explain about the recent , tag team match we sawvthis Tuesday. And I was thanking her the way I seen it , it was a great positive comments by her, and I was just commenting back in a positive way, Giving her thanks back. Now can you two posters understand now? Maybe you all should stop complaining about the match and appriciate what she said about the match, I do. Sorry about the extra posts they have also happen before have no control over that.
Uh.... yeah, ddland45. I agree. WTF...over.
WTF?????
Thanks, my Great Sheriff Bryn, win or lose, your still my Great Sheriff of the, Wild Wild Ultimate SurrenderWest. I live out East, but I have to say, that Ultimate Surrender, Rocks, as the best Unscripted Female wrestling Site on the web. Forget, Acadamy, they have nothing on you girls!!!! You are the Wild Wild West. Best Female, Wrestling Internet, Site on the Web Period!!!!! Thanks, And for caring to explain to the members, about the exciting Tag Team Match we just saw. I can understand, you can't say to much, rules are rules, understand that. But you coming here, to explain to the fans, members about the match we just saw, Even that little bit of explaining Bryn, explain a lot thanks!!!! It really does from this members perspective of how things are running. And shows Bryn my Great Western Law, Princess Donna, And all the Girls who , wrestle at U/S that you all put in 100pct Way to go you allRock!!! And also what you said, about Plans? You are exactly , right Bryn no matter how you planned them out. Strategy wise, there's , always Gremlins, or something thrown at ya I can relate. I experienced that the best laid plans can go awry sometimes, that's life. But you all hung in there , the match could have been canceled , but what good would have come from that? And sad to say after Katies Departure earlier in the match. Hope by now she's recuperated and she's alright whew that was close. Determination and willpower carried you girls thru, I can imagine like you said that could have been tough for Princess Donna after six years off the mat, thankfully she didn't get hurt in that hold and also pulled thru. And what you also said Bryn about , learning, that's how it works in life, Learn as you go that the only way, thanks for a great match , can't wait to see round four Tuesday.
Thanks, my Great Sheriff Bryn, win or lose, your still my Great Sheriff of the, Wild Wild Ultimate SurrenderWest. I live out East, but I have to say, that Ultimate Surrender, Rocks, as the best Unscripted Female wrestling Site on the web. Forget, Acadamy, they have nothing on you girls!!!! You are the Wild Wild West. Best Female, Wrestling Internet, Site on the Web Period!!!!! Thanks, And for caring to explain to the members, about the exciting Tag Team Match we just saw. I can understand, you can't say to much, rules are rules, understand that. But you coming here, to explain to the fans, members about the match we just saw, Even that little bit of explaining Bryn, explain a lot thanks!!!! It really does from this members perspective of how things are running. And shows Bryn my Great Western Law, Princess Donna, And all the Girls who , wrestle at U/S that you all put in 100pct Way to go you allRock!!! And also what you said, about Plans? You are exactly , right Bryn no matter how you planned them out. Strategy wise, there's , always Gremlins, or something thrown at ya I can relate. I experienced that the best laid plans can go awry sometimes, that's life. But you all hung in there , the match could have been canceled , but what good would have come from that? And sad to say after Katies Departure earlier in the match. Hope by now she's recuperated and she's alright whew that was close. Determination and willpower carried you girls thru, I can imagine like you said that could have been tough for Princess Donna after six years off the mat, thankfully she didn't get hurt in that hold and also pulled thru. And what you also said Bryn about , learning, that's how it works in life, Learn as you go that the only way, thanks for a great match , can't wait to see round four Tuesday.
Thanks, my Great Sheriff Bryn, win or lose, your still my Great Sheriff of the, Wild Wild Ultimate SurrenderWest. I live out East, but I have to say, that Ultimate Surrender, Rocks, as the best Unscripted Female wrestling Site on the web. Forget, Acadamy, they have nothing on you girls!!!! You are the Wild Wild West. Best Female, Wrestling Internet, Site on the Web Period!!!!! Thanks, And for caring to explain to the members, about the exciting Tag Team Match we just saw. I can understand, you can't say to much, rules are rules, understand that. But you coming here, to explain to the fans, members about the match we just saw, Even that little bit of explaining Bryn, explain a lot thanks!!!! It really does from this members perspective of how things are running. And shows Bryn my Great Western Law, Princess Donna, And all the Girls who , wrestle at U/S that you all put in 100pct Way to go you allRock!!! And also what you said, about Plans? You are exactly , right Bryn no matter how you planned them out. Strategy wise, there's , always Gremlins, or something thrown at ya I can relate. I experienced that the best laid plans can go awry sometimes, that's life. But you all hung in there , the match could have been canceled , but what good would have come from that? And sad to say after Katies Departure earlier in the match. Hope by now she's recuperated and she's alright whew that was close. Determination and willpower carried you girls thru, I can imagine like you said that could have been tough for Princess Donna after six years off the mat, thankfully she didn't get hurt in that hold and also pulled thru. And what you also said Bryn about , learning, that's how it works in life, Learn as you go that the only way, thanks for a great match , can't wait to see round four Tuesday.
Thanks, my Great Sheriff Bryn, win or lose, your still my Great Sheriff of the, Wild Wild Ultimate SurrenderWest. I live out East, but I have to say, that Ultimate Surrender, Rocks, as the best Unscripted Female wrestling Site on the web. Forget, Acadamy, they have nothing on you girls!!!! You are the Wild Wild West. Best Female, Wrestling Internet, Site on the Web Period!!!!! Thanks, And for caring to explain to the members, about the exciting Tag Team Match we just saw. I can understand, you can't say to much, rules are rules, understand that. But you coming here, to explain to the fans, members about the match we just saw, Even that little bit of explaining Bryn, explain a lot thanks!!!! It really does from this members perspective of how things are running. And shows Bryn my Great Western Law, Princess Donna, And all the Girls who , wrestle at U/S that you all put in 100pct Way to go you allRock!!! And also what you said, about Plans? You are exactly , right Bryn no matter how you planned them out. Strategy wise, there's , always Gremlins, or something thrown at ya I can relate. I experienced that the best laid plans can go awry sometimes, that's life. But you all hung in there , the match could have been canceled , but what good would have come from that? And sad to say after Katies Departure earlier in the match. Hope by now she's recuperated and she's alright whew that was close. Determination and willpower carried you girls thru, I can imagine like you said that could have been tough for Princess Donna after six years off the mat, thankfully she didn't get hurt in that hold and also pulled thru. And what you also said Bryn about , learning, that's how it works in life, Learn as you go that the only way, thanks for a great match , can't wait to see round four Tuesday.
Thanks, my Great Sheriff Bryn, win or lose, your still my Great Sheriff of the, Wild Wild Ultimate SurrenderWest. I live out East, but I have to say, that Ultimate Surrender, Rocks, as the best Unscripted Female wrestling Site on the web. Forget, Acadamy, they have nothing on you girls!!!! You are the Wild Wild West. Best Female, Wrestling Internet, Site on the Web Period!!!!! Thanks, And for caring to explain to the members, about the exciting Tag Team Match we just saw. I can understand, you can't say to much, rules are rules, understand that. But you coming here, to explain to the fans, members about the match we just saw, Even that little bit of explaining Bryn, explain a lot thanks!!!! It really does from this members perspective of how things are running. And shows Bryn my Great Western Law, Princess Donna, And all the Girls who , wrestle at U/S that you all put in 100pct Way to go you allRock!!! And also what you said, about Plans? You are exactly , right Bryn no matter how you planned them out. Strategy wise, there's , always Gremlins, or something thrown at ya I can relate. I experienced that the best laid plans can go awry sometimes, that's life. But you all hung in there , the match could have been canceled , but what good would have come from that? And sad to say after Katies Departure earlier in the match. Hope by now she's recuperated and she's alright whew that was close. Determination and willpower carried you girls thru, I can imagine like you said that could have been tough for Princess Donna after six years off the mat, thankfully she didn't get hurt in that hold and also pulled thru. And what you also said Bryn about , learning, that's how it works in life, Learn as you go that the only way, thanks for a great match , can't wait to see round four Tuesday.
Thanks, my Great Sheriff Bryn, win or lose, your still my Great Sheriff of the, Wild Wild Ultimate SurrenderWest. I live out East, but I have to say, that Ultimate Surrender, Rocks, as the best Unscripted Female wrestling Site on the web. Forget, Acadamy, they have nothing on you girls!!!! You are the Wild Wild West. Best Female, Wrestling Internet, Site on the Web Period!!!!! Thanks, And for caring to explain to the members, about the exciting Tag Team Match we just saw. I can understand, you can't say to much, rules are rules, understand that. But you coming here, to explain to the fans, members about the match we just saw, Even that little bit of explaining Bryn, explain a lot thanks!!!! It really does from this members perspective of how things are running. And shows Bryn my Great Western Law, Princess Donna, And all the Girls who , wrestle at U/S that you all put in 100pct Way to go you allRock!!! And also what you said, about Plans? You are exactly , right Bryn no matter how you planned them out. Strategy wise, there's , always Gremlins, or something thrown at ya I can relate. I experienced that the best laid plans can go awry sometimes, that's life. But you all hung in there , the match could have been canceled , but what good would have come from that? And sad to say after Katies Departure earlier in the match. Hope by now she's recuperated and she's alright whew that was close. Determination and willpower carried you girls thru, I can imagine like you said that could have been tough for Princess Donna after six years off the mat, thankfully she didn't get hurt in that hold and also pulled thru. And what you also said Bryn about , learning, that's how it works in life, Learn as you go that the only way, thanks for a great match , can't wait to see round four Tuesday.
Thanks, my Great Sheriff Bryn, win or lose, your still my Great Sheriff of the, Wild Wild Ultimate SurrenderWest. I live out East, but I have to say, that Ultimate Surrender, Rocks, as the best Unscripted Female wrestling Site on the web. Forget, Acadamy, they have nothing on you girls!!!! You are the Wild Wild West. Best Female, Wrestling Internet, Site on the Web Period!!!!! Thanks, And for caring to explain to the members, about the exciting Tag Team Match we just saw. I can understand, you can't say to much, rules are rules, understand that. But you coming here, to explain to the fans, members about the match we just saw, Even that little bit of explaining Bryn, explain a lot thanks!!!! It really does from this members perspective of how things are running. And shows Bryn my Great Western Law, Princess Donna, And all the Girls who , wrestle at U/S that you all put in 100pct Way to go you allRock!!! And also what you said, about Plans? You are exactly , right Bryn no matter how you planned them out. Strategy wise, there's , always Gremlins, or something thrown at ya I can relate. I experienced that the best laid plans can go awry sometimes, that's life. But you all hung in there , the match could have been canceled , but what good would have come from that? And sad to say after Katies Departure earlier in the match. Hope by now she's recuperated and she's alright whew that was close. Determination and willpower carried you girls thru, I can imagine like you said that could have been tough for Princess Donna after six years off the mat, thankfully she didn't get hurt in that hold and also pulled thru. And what you also said Bryn about , learning, that's how it works in life, Learn as you go that the only way, thanks for a great match , can't wait to see round four Tuesday.
:) First of all, I have to say this has been one of the more exciting tag teams matches I've been in because it was so up in the air! Clearly some people are upset by how this round went lol but this is what happens in LIVE shows! The unpredictability of it is unparallel to the other kink sites - and it's flustering to try and regroup when plan A doesn't go right. I give Princess Donna huge credit for stepping into a match she knew was going to be tough! All of the wrestlers/refs put 100% effort into this site and making you happy, yes there's been "big" changes - but we only learn and make it better! Communication is vital and our number 1 priority amongst us wrestlers, much of which you dont see or hear on camera, so it can seem like things are going unnoticed or ignored. Hopefully you are all looking forward to round 4 finale... that's literally all I could talk about inbetween rounds in the back with the girls lol Thanks for letting me live out my wildest fantasies and thanks for posting!
It's clear that this improvised match created a number of challenges for all concerned. I'm amazed that it even came off under the circumstances. Many of the comments posted so far relate to issues already being discussed in the Tag Team forum. Now that Round 3 has been posted for those who did not see the Live Event, I encourage others to read and contribute to the discussion in the Forum. I too would like to see some discussion what the actual rules are for Tag Team events and how they may differ from Head to Head matches.
rubberfantasticgirl what are you talking about with the running around the ring doing what she wants? She moved from one side of the ring to the other and never got anywhere near the actions. Once again I not putting any of the girls down and hell ya if you have kara you have a chance of winning same if got from the other side the izmar and donna match up was way one sided we could be discussing this from the other side just as easily. I am asking sbout several things that happened here today that i have never seen before. running from the other wrestler, blocking tags and why they werent seperated after 1.5 mins. Is this the new US or just as match that brought up questions? I would be looking for someone from US to clarify not trying to pick a fight cause i root for the law.
Lets get the facts right tag team is always hard to officiate its live in front of an audiance and fast In this match we had a wrestler unable to continue KATIE was not injured just exhausted so PRINCESS DONNA took her place KARA had her first match and IZAMAR still has` experience to gain. Yes as tag teams go it had its problems. But things are new Matt isnt here PRINCESS DONNA did not force him or ISIS to leave so we start with new staff and experience will be gained. What i did see was ALL the women out there looking out for each other yes it was a tough match but KARA in her first U/S style match was not putting her opponents in dangerous holds or going for submission holds no she was going for style points the two weaker wrestlers were probably more frustrated than any thing else having to deal with the likes of IZAMAR and KARA but if you see the singles match you will see that both these wrestlers were not out there to hurt either BRYN or PRINCESS DONNA. As for the refs both DRAGON LILY and RAIN were great they kept the wrestlers safe in a very fast physical match.Remember at the start there were to refs and PRINCESS DONNA on the mat.I have been first to complain about safety and realize that we are starting from a new begining in which every one has a part to play the wrestlers are not out there to hurt each other and every one out there is looking out for each other and learing with each match. jh/uk
The officiating debate regarding this match exposed some of the ongoing management and organizational issue plaguing this site right now. I would think, no offense, that such a veteran wrestler as Dragonlily would have a better grasp of the rules as was displayed here. It looked like a WWE free-for-all with the refs out there as props. Now, the actual action on the mat was still entertaining and exciting if you ignored the potential for disaster that was present. If Dragon and Rain and Princess Donna are going to don the stripes permanently, then a much better job needs to be done and quickly! All the questions raised by the fans and subscribers are legitimate concerns not only for the integrity of the product but for the safety of everyone involved. DON'T LET A TRAGEDY OCCUR BEFORE YOU ACT!
You guys, At 2:59 what the hell is Izamar jumping up and running around in the ring, you want fair it works both ways. No wonder it was right for the Princess to tag the way she did , fair is fair isn't it , because at 2:59 , Princess, Donna even pointed that out? But Izamar came a charging in the ring running around doing what she wanted to. Darn right I'm glad Green did what they did and won. To the other poster it looks like red was playing a little dirty too.
Correction not red green was faster with there tags. That's my correction to my post above!!!
It was a very fair and even match. Red was faster and very slick with there tags the way a tag team match should be they Princess Donna and The Great Mistress used there tags , brilliantly . It reminds me of the Match back in May with Ariel, and Bryn remember , back in May. How the Great law and the champ Ariel, won. Her and Bryn back then had Poor Penny and Bella so tangled up and had Great , Style points. Ariel on Penny , poor Penny was so befuddled she couldn't accomplish , anything to get out of Ariels holds. So like a rubber band , it reversed or bounced back with this match, only this time it was Bryn on the receiving end of Kara Wrath strong great control holds and excellent , style points, and Princess quick thinking , of being able to counter back there Izamar, and Byns tags won the match. Remember back in may Ariel and Bryn paralyzed ,poor Penny and Bella. So Kara just returned the favor to Bryn. Also the Refs for the first time I can say for a while, were great.
What we see is a tag team that is a live match being rescued by PRINCESS DONNA if as you think the rules might in some way of favored our directors team i think anyone with MISTREESS KARA in there team stands a great chance of winning anything it probably evened out the first round and we still have refs in trainig jh/uk
I really dont think this was a fair round at all! The ref girl kept on fending the tag for red. She went around even to not let the Izamar girl to help her partner. The little red was fighting for her life and it looked so one sided. Im sorry, but if theres gonna be some US matches, we need them girls to start learning whats right and wrong and to learn the rules right. It looked like it was 4 vs 2. On top of that, there were a few choke holds that werent stopped then when Izamar had a hold of her opponent, everyone jumped all over her holds. Cmon gang, this looks the NFL with their ref problems.
you should reread the rule it clearly states that after one min 30 secs of control they will be separated. Also states states the rules about being off the mat after your tagged out. I am not so much saying intervening with the off the mat wrestler bothered me it was the several times she touched the actally wrestler. and if it is not wresller forward as a rule I though it was bad form to see her run to her partner after tapping out. She should have been down anyway right? No matter huge fan of the sites and the ladies just that round felt wrong to me if it is just me so be it. also as far as sportsmen ship i have always been amazed with these ladies i don't think i would be able to do it without losing my temper for sure/.
Also the scene, at 10:22, with Izamar great concerns, for teammate, Princess Donna, health and well being. Shoes the, great concerns the wrestlers have, for each others safety . And that members shows the great, sportsmanship , and great teamwork!!! At play here at U/S. And also to Princess Donna, At 10:31, minute, for giving, praise to Izamar after what just happen, That takes, a lot of sportsmanship , or I should say, sportswomanship. From you , Princess Donna. To give Izamar , that much praise, after she was, on top of you. That makes Izamar, for her concerns, and you Princess Donna, for returning the thanks, both of you, are great, girls for that. Also at the, 10:30, like Bryn& Kara on the sides together. At 10:29,shows all them coming together, at the moment. Forgetting about , wrestling for the time being!!!! Think about safety way to go girls. Also Izamar, for fanning , the towel for, Princess Donna, and also for the Refs, and I have to say I have been talking about , you in my, other posts. But in this match, Dragon, and I know I have to admit Rain , you were, superb at handling, this important situation , involving Princess Donna time out . Even saying that she had to have a time out , for being off the mat for the last six years, thanks Rain for letting us know that. Also for bringing the, H2o in for them to hydrate themselves, Refs you did a superior job thanks for a very fast and exciting round three, or as I call it the rubber game, because after the slight lead that Izamar and Bryn had at the start, I'm glad it bounced back the momentum to The Wonder woman , team of Mistress Kara and the super slick and fast Princess Donna. Donna even though Izamar had you in those, inescapable holds . Now I see what you said in your posts earlier , that had to be tough? I'm glad how you and Kara used your strategic tags, to out maneuver and create confusion so they Izamar and Bryn , couldn't tag. Mistress and The Princess, you had them so confused in knots brilliant , just brilliant . Hence , the term rubber game, because even though at the start of the rubber match. Bryn and Izamar had a slight lead at first , it fantastically bounced back to you all Mistress Kara and Princess Donna , congratulations girls . Kara you had Bryn so twisted up an con fuddled , confused , great line by Bryn to Kara , you slippery, M and Kara bounced back , slippery like your pussy. Also the Quick back and forth of Princess, to inter confused the tags , so that Bryn and Izamar were in a ball of confusion. Talk about windshield wipers great.
Ok, everything I have read about the rules says nothing about the tag partner intervening with the other out of play wrestler, while it may be frowned upon or unheard of, that does not make it a violation, also if I remember correctly each team is allowed 1 timeout to be used during the match, She tagged out immediately while not what I wanted to see was the best choice for the match. Finally I do agree with the long duration hold not being called but I have seen it multiple times in tag team games so maybe it is as simple as that.
Damn, Mistress Kara is a beast! Even though Princess Donna got away with some ring violations, Kara completely dominated Bryn. I was very impressed by Izamar's efforts to take advantage of a tired Kara and an over-matched Princess. This round was outstanding and I think for someone retired, Donna did pretty good. It was to be expected that she needed a break with that much effort being put out against top notch competition. Kara and Izamar looked to be pretty evenly matched in this bout, not like their one-on-one contest. Great effort from all four girls. Great match, Donna!
So I have never went negative before but this was not really a round as much as letting two wrestlers do whatever they wanted. Unless a rule change has been done dont we break them up after they have been in a hold so long. The law spent 2/3rd of the round in almost a continual hold with no repreave were as donna did 10 secs tap out then instead of wreslting forward ran away from the match to tag in her partner again and when have you allowed a wrestler from the sidelines to actually involve themeselves in a match. Donna was no where near having a foot out when she touched the law to prevent her from tapping out. Either way the fualt lies with the ref. While i am huge fan Rain you there for the safey and equality of the wrestlers and I think you seriously let the law down. I know she is the new director and I know that it was probably a great show and does not count against the end record but I see your face in round 4 when you lost and I would have to say it matters to all of you at least. I hope this is a learning experience and not a preview of what we can expect in the future.
First of all congragelations to The great Wonder Woman great team of The mysterious Mistress, Kara and the Great Princess Donna. Both for there superior effort here. My God this Match part three lived up to my Great expantations!!! Matter of fact the whole Tag Match was and what makes , Ultimate Surrender the Ultimate , Unscripted Female Wrestling Site on the. Internet , forget Acadamy , your left in the dussssssst , you guys over there can't match U/S. Way to go Princess , I can see it was , grueling for , you but you showed indurance , and hung in there. Saving the match from being canceled, when Katie left a little earlier . And now I see what you mean by Izamar on top of you again. Also I like you moving so fast and slippery , cutting off The Great Izamar. So she couldn't , Tag , The Great Western Bryn The Law. Also saying to Bryn as her legs were flying every, which way but loose. Don't let , you legs Bryn, hit me. Princess you are the best!!!! Also, Kara if any one still in there mind , still that little thought that you can beat Ariel, you all that , match over at the other site was then , this is now. We will see what happens , when and if Ariel comes back , after her time off here at U/S. That should be a classic. Until then till she comes back . In my eyes the Great Mysterious Mistress Kara is the new Queen. Izamar you tried and put in a great effort thanks. And Bryn those first minutes, of this round three the great rubber match was beyond awesome and the last few minutes, same great . You had to be tough Bryn to endure all that greatness of the Mistress Kara , and you didn't give in . Even that you couldn't do anything you all were great thanks!!! Now bring of the out of this world RD 4.
Its a great match but why is Princess Donna allowed to fight off the other person that is out of the ring on the opposing team when she is also outside of the circle? Aren't the only ones that should be doing the wrestling and battling the ones that are in the ring currently wrestling. In fact at around 6:35 in round 3 she is inside of the circle fending off a tag from Izamar she even touched Bryn in an effort to keep her opponents from tagging each other. My take on round 3 was it was looking more like a 2 on 1 match with the outside interference.